Necromunda Campaign Q1 2018 - diskusija

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Re: Necromunda Campaign Q1 2018 - diskusija

Post by lord_blackfang » Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:28 pm

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Post by lord_blackfang » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:50 pm

Release schedule:

Q1 Orlocks
Q2 Van Saar
Q3 Cawdor
Q4 Delaque

Genestealer Cult and Chaos Cultists coming in White Dwarf.

Vse kaže, da bo ob vsakem gangu izšla nova Gang War knjiga, ki bo razširila igralne opcije.

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Re: Necromunda Campaign Q1 2018 - diskusija

Post by lord_blackfang » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:22 am

Gang War - kako grejo kampanije:

Kampanije so zdaj razdeljene v mini-kampanije, ki se jim reče Turf War. Vsak Turf War je logična celota, tekom njega so gangi konstantni. V odmoru med Turf Wari lahko vstopajo novi igralci, se menjajo premočni ali prešibki gangi in podobno.

Turf War je razdeljen na cikle. Cikel je obdobje, v katerem se lahko od vsakega igralca pričakuje, da bo odigral vsaj eno igro, torej kak teden. Ni pa nič narobe, če se odigra več iger. Gangi dobijo prihodke od teritorijev samo enkrat v vsakem ciklu (od drugega cikla naprej). Leaderji in Championi pa lahko služijo dodaten denar po vsaki igri kot svoj post-battle action.

Moč ganga se meri z Gang Rating, ki je skupna cena vseh figur in opreme in vključuje povečanje vrednosti zavoljo napredovanja.

Uspešnost ganga pa se meri z Reputation - to so victory pointi kampanije. Reputation se služi z zmagovanjem iger in z igranjem proti močnejšim gangom, kar je glavna uravnilovka v novi Necromundi.

Na koncu Turf Wara dva ganga z najvišjim Reputation igrata za končno zmago.
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Re: Necromunda Campaign Q1 2018 - diskusija

Post by lord_blackfang » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:23 am

Prvi post sem posodobil z novimi dognanji.
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Re: Necromunda Campaign Q1 2018 - diskusija

Post by Marcus » Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:48 am

Odprl Escher kartice. Nove kartice ti veliko pomagajo, mislim, da sva z 'fangom igrala samo s karticami iz škatle. Vsaj za Escher-ke, si upam trditi, da bo pravilna izbira in uporaba dokaj odločilna.
  • Recimo, +2 MOD po (!) tem ko vržeš ali tarča podleže strupu. Zdi se mi uporabno, če dobiš specialista znotraj plinske granate ali kaj podobnega.
  • Igraš med nasprotnikovo ali svojo rundo. -1 MOD/zadetek na strelne napade znotraj 12" ter -2 MOD/zadetek za napade izven te razdalje.
  • Igraš na model, ki je padel moralo (broken). Model strelja ali udari, če je v CC, po najbližjemu modelu znotraj LoF.
  • Igraš namesto, da bi aktiviral borca (moram pogledati kako se to niza). Vsa CC orožja dobijo pariranje, če to že imajo, dobijo -1 na AP. Najbrž to dobi tudi nasprotnik, če lahko reagira.
  • "Play this card when a fighter makes a ranged attack against a target who has already been shot at a friendly fighter". "The hit roll succeeds automatically"
Če bi kdo naredil še za Goliath (povzetek kartic, ki padejo v oko), bi bilo super.

Kot sem pa komentiral na Dakki. Puške orlockov zgledajo super.

Van Saar pa so bili opisani kot sedanji modeli z malenkost sloga Infinity-a. Nimam nič proti, če bodo bolj čistega videza kot nekaj v slogu Mad Max, post - apoc Amazonke in podobno. Slogi za vsako oko.
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Re: Necromunda Campaign Q1 2018 - diskusija

Post by lord_blackfang » Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:56 pm

Goliath:
Not Done Yet - Igraš na model, ko umre. Model ostane na mizi še za eno aktivacijo.

Generic:
Desperate Effort - Če nimaš več Ready figur, lahko aktiviraš eno figuro še enkrat, potem je pinned.
Thundering Charge - Charge 2xMove
Adrenaline Surge - Med aktivacijo figure. Figure dobi dodatno akcijo.
Just Add Nails - Pred metom frag granate. Granata dobi +2" na velikost blast markerja.
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Re: Necromunda Campaign Q1 2018 - diskusija

Post by Marcus » Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:45 pm

Dve stvari za Escher igralce, ki sem jih odkril:

- Escher šibrovke so na dolivkih. Lahko sestaviš dva modela. Za 10 pik celo cenejše od Goliath-ovih.
- Pištole, tako kot pri 40k, se dajo uporabljati v CC. Ne dobiš pa nikakršnega bonusa.
- Chem - synth ti dajo bonus na strupu in plinu. To v večini pomeni, da ne moreš vzeti še AIM akcije, razen na račun kakšnega posebnega pravila ali kartice. Najverjetneje se bo bonus največ poznal na chem-thrower in bolter-needle gun.
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Post by lord_blackfang » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:05 pm

Gang Creation

Upošteva se Gang War.

Torej:
1000 creditov
1 Leader
0-2 Championa (kljub ceni priporočam 2, ker samo Leader in Championi služijo denar)
Vsaj polovica figur morajo biti Gangerji
Juves po želji
Nov gang ima dostop samo do House Equipment List, Trading Post se lahko obišče šele po prvi bitki.
Ko je oprema enkrat na fighterju, se je ne da več sneti do smrti. Če hočete dati komu kak weapon iz Trading Posta, morate pustiti prostor na fighterju.

Še v dvomih? Pike za tiste brez Gang Wara https://imgur.com/a/A4Bbs
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Re: Necromunda Campaign Q1 2018 - diskusija

Post by Marcus » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:22 pm

V redu, potem se uporabljajo pike iz liste, ki si jo delil.

Recimo šibrovka, mi je v osnovnemu pravilniku 20 pik, na povezavi je 30. Gangers pa za 5 pik cenejši. Zakaj ni moglo biti enako...

Primary skills so enaki kot v okrnjeni verziji pravilnika?

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Re: Necromunda Campaign Q1 2018 - diskusija

Post by lord_blackfang » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:13 pm

Bom pofotkal, če se ne najde pdf pravočasno.

Sam se kar mučim z goliathi, zaradi večjih figur imajo precej manj opcij na spruju. Za nobeno orožje ni in levoročne in desnoročne variante, npr.

More news:
“gang war three is mostly written
•gang war two will include rules for Orlocks, the new ZM tiles, and rules for hired guns, and hangers on.
•bounty hunters are completely custom, having full access to the trading post and about to take up to 5 weapons, and three skills. Hive scum will be a collection of low level add ons who are basically cannon fodder for your gang.
•there will be four hang-ons to start with: cook, scout, doc, and armourer.
• escher, Goliath, and orlock will get their resin weapon packs early next year around the same time GW2 comes out.
• GW3 will include a massively increased trading post and house armoury lists. Including the vast majority of imperial weapons and wargear.
•GW3 will include more specialised missions including one with civilians.
•white dwarf will have a 3rd new gang after book 2 launches made up exclusively of bounty hunters. These will have your usual levels of ganger with use of the trading post lists in place of a house list. Gangers will have a level of rareity attached to them”
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